General Baler Difficulties
| Symptom | Problem | Solution |
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Monitor-controller GATE CLOSED indicator does not come
on and GATE OPEN indicator stays on.
| Obstruction between gate and frame. |
Remove obstruction.
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Hay buildup on belts in gate area in some crop conditions.
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Remove buildup. Operate
PTO while closing gate.
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Too much clearance between latch hooks and shim pad.
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Adjust gate latch stop.
(See procedure Service—Baler section.)
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Hay buildup at gate latch area due to incorrect routing
of hydraulic pickup lift hoses.
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Route hoses correctly.
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Monitor-controller GATE CLOSED and STOP indicators are
on.
| Gate latch switch not adjusted properly. |
Adjust gate latch switch.
(See procedure in Service—Baler section.)
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Tractor hydraulic valve leaking oil into baler.
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Repair tractor hydraulic
valve. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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Air in hydraulic system.
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Open and close gate
several times to remove air.
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Internal leak in gate hydraulic cylinder.
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Repair or replace cylinder.
(See your John Deere dealer.)
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Hydraulic cylinder not retracted when gate is closed.
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Hold tractor selector
control valve lever 2—3 seconds after green light is on.
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Gate not latched.
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When closing gate, hold
tractor selector valve until green light comes on.
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Gate latches not adjusted properly.
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Adjust gate latch stop.
(See procedure in Service—Baler section.)
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Gate sprung.
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Straighten. (See your
John Deere dealer.)
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Gate not latched.
| Obstruction between gate and frame. |
Remove obstruction.
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Hay buildup on belts in gate area in some crop conditions.
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Remove buildup. Operate
PTO while closing gate.
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Too much clearance between latch hooks and shim pad.
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Adjust gate latch stop.
(See procedure in Service—Baler section.)
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Hay buildup at gate latch area due to incorrect routing
of hydraulic pickup lift hoses.
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Route hoses correctly.
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Bale density gauge reading in red.
| Tractor selector valve not in neutral position while
baling. |
Move hydraulic lever
to neutral while baling.
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Defective density gauge.
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Replace gauge. (See
your John Deere dealer.)
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Defective bale density valve cartridge.
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Replace or repair valve.
(See your John Deere dealer.)
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Diamond surfaces on bale forming belts are rubbing together.
| Upper belt tension roll in shipping position.
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Move to operating position.
(See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)
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Crop or mud buildup on rolls.
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Clean rolls.
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Belt tension arm not fully down.
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Lower tension arm with
tractor hydraulic lever.
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Belts not routed properly.
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See belt routing diagram
and reroute. (See INSTALL BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Belts too short.
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Repair belts. (See REPAIR
BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Starter roll wraps with hay.
| Regular Pickup; Pickup drive idler not adjusted properly
or pickup belt damaged. |
Adjust idler or replace
belt, if necessary. (See ADJUST PICKUP BELT IDLER in Service—Baler
section.)
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MegaTooth™ or MegaWide™ Plus Pickup; Slip
clutch worn.
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Replace pickup slip
clutch. (See your John Deere dealer.)
Check pickup clutch
torque. (See CHECK PICKUP SLIP CLUTCH TORQUE [MegaTooth™ or
MegaWide™ Plus] in Service—Baler section.)
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MegaWide™ Plus Pickup; Main drive slip clutch
slipping.
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Adjust main PTO driveline
slip clutch. (See ADJUST MAIN PTO DRIVELINE SLIP CLUTCH in Service—Baler
section.)
Adjust starter roll scraper. (See procedure
in Service—Baler section.)
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Windrow wet on bottom.
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Turn windrow. (See BALE
WET HAY in Operating the Baler section.)
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Ground speed and rpm too high when starting bale.
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Reduce rpm until bale
core has formed.
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Windrow too large.
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Decrease windrow size.
Install starter roll
scraper. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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Material pinched under pickup crop divider, tire, or
gauge wheels (if equipped).
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Start bale with windrow
centered on pickup. Gathering wheels can help for scattered windrows.
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Nicks or rough places on starter roll.
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Smooth with file.
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Bale density control knob hard to turn.
| Raised gate or belt tension arm causes additional turning
resistance. |
Adjust with gate closed
and belt tension arm down. (See ADJUST BALE DENSITY in Operating the
Baler section.)
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Dry thread on adjusting screw.
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Apply a few drops of
oil or a dry graphite lubricant to the threads.
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Locking ring locked against valve body.
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Unscrew locking ring
before adjusting density control knob.
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Belt lacing failure.
| Belts are not the same length. |
Repair belts. (See REPAIR
BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Belts not tracking correctly.
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Adjust belt tracking.
(See procedure in Service—Baler section.)
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Making oversized bales.
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Check maximum bale size
adjustment. (See ADJUST OVERSIZE BALE SWITCH in Service—Baler
section.)
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Belts not routed correctly.
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Route belts correctly.
(See INSTALL BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Material wrapping on rolls.
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Remove material from
rolls.
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Belt splice pins break.
| Excessive wear on pins. |
Check pins for wear
or breakage every 2000 bales (every 1000 bales in sandy conditions).
Replace pins if broken, or if more than one-third of pin thickness
is worn through.
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Incorrect belt length can cause excessive load on shorter
belts.
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See REPAIR BELTS in
Service—Baler section.
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Belt slipping or not turning.
| Belt tension arm not returning all the way down to tension
belts. |
Operate tractor at full
rpm when closing gate to ensure that tension arm tightens belts before
gate close indicator comes on.
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Water dripping off belts and rollers.
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Avoid baling in rain
or frosted crop.
Reduce density. (See ADJUST BALE DENSITY
in Operating the Baler section.)
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Belts too long.
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Check belts for proper
length. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Excessive wrappage of net material around top idler
roll (No. 11) pinches belt against top baler frame tube.
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Remove net and crop
around top idler roll (No. 11).
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Upper tension arm compression spring out of adjustment.
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Adjust spring. (See
ADJUST TAKE-UP ARM COMPRESSION SPRING in Service—Baler section.)
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Gate lock valve closes or locks before gate is closed.
| Gate lock valve spool is not in full unlocked position
(snap ring must be against housing). |
Make sure that valve
spool is not binding. If handle contacts bracket before spool is fully
out, bend bracket slightly to allow full travel of valve spool in
both directions.
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Binding at gate pivots.
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Eliminate binding.
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Gate twisted.
| Gate becomes unlatched on one side when baling begins,
or gate becomes unlatched while baling. |
Hold lever 2—3
seconds after GATE CLOSED indicator is on before beginning to bale.
(Do not rely upon sound of gate closing.) See your John Deere dealer
to straighten gate.
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Gate latches not adjusted properly.
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Adjust gate latches.
(See ADJUST GATE LATCH STOP in Service—Baler section.)
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Gate latch proximity switches not adjusted properly.
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Check gate latch switch
adjustment. (See ADJUST GATE LATCH PROXIMITY SWITCHES in Service—Baler
section.)
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Tractor selector valve leaking.
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Repair or replace as
necessary. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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Broken or stretched latch hook.
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Replace parts.
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Bale sticks in chamber.
| Paint on sidesheets of new baler. |
Reduce density until
baler has made several bales to polish sidesheet. (See ADJUST BALE
DENSITY in Operating the Baler section.)
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Bale density too high.
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Lower bale density at
control valve. (See ADJUST BALE DENSITY in Operating the Baler section.)
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Bale sticks in front frame due to damp crop.
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Install High-Moisture
Kit. (See Attachments section.)
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Excessive side sheet friction caused by buildup on side
sheets.
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Remove buildup. Make
sure gate deflectors (if equipped) are installed in gate.
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Excessive sidesheet friction.
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Check straightness and
straighten front sidesheets of baler if needed. (See your John Deere
dealer.)
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Damage to belt diamond pattern. Belts cut or broken.
| Material buildup on compressor rack causing belts to
contact starter roll. |
See BALE SHORT, DRY,
SLICK CROPS, and BALE CORNSTALKS in Operating the Baler section.
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Foreign objects in windrow.
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Operate with pickup
as high as possible. (See ADJUST PICKUP HEIGHT in Operating the Baler
section.)
Remove foreign objects from windrow.
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Wrappage on lower drive roll forcing belt into starter
roll.
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Remove wrappage.
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Bale forming belts contacting each other.
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See DIAMOND SURFACE
ON BALE FORMING BELTS ARE RUBBING TOGETHER in this section.
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Belt edges fuzzy.
| Normal break-in. |
After break-in period,
the fuzziness will stop.
Trim loose cords.
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Excessive wear on belt guides or tension arm.
| Improper belt tracking or tension arm rear tips not
centered. |
Adjust belt tracking.
(See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)
Check for grooves worn
into tension arm wear channels. (See TENSION ARM WEAR CHANNELS in
Lubrication and Maintenance section.)
Center tension arm rear
tips and replace tension arm wear channels. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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Belts pinched between lower gate roll and axle tube.
| Gate is closing before tension arm removes slack from
belts. |
Operate tractor at full
rpm when closing gate to ensure that tension arm tightens belts.
If equipped with net wrap, the flow restrictor valve supplied
with the bundle must be installed.
Make sure that tractor
SCV is not placed into float position when closing the gate.
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Tractor selector control valve lever in detent while
closing gate.
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Adjust selector control
valve lever for no detent, so lever returns to neutral when released.
(See your tractor operator's manual.)
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Sticking or contaminated check valves in tensioning
valve.
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Repair or replace as
necessary. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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Belts turn over or cross.
| Closing gate with PTO engaged and strong winds prevailing
and side hill operation. |
Install Auxilary Take-up
Roll to reduce belt slack during bale discharge. See ATTACHMENTS section
and your John Deere dealer.
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Operating baler empty with gate up and no tension on
belts for extended periods.
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Do not operate in this
manner for an extended time.
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Driving too long on one side of windrow at bale start.
Hay pushes out between belts.
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Center pickup on windrow
at bale start.
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Belts do not track properly.
| Belt tracking rollers out of adjustment. |
Adjust rollers. (See
ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)
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Belts not correct length.
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Correct belt length.
(See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Belts not cut square when splicing.
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Resplice belt. (See
REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Twine or mud buildup on baler rolls.
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Remove buildup.
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Belts not routed correctly.
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See belt routing diagram
and reroute belts. (See INSTALL BELTS in Service—Baler section.)
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Bad bearing on roll.
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Rotate all rolls by
hand and inspect for loose bearings, and so on. Repair or replace
as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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New belts track back and forth on rolls.
| Wax from belts builds up on rolls. |
Use oil dry granules
or talcum powder to polish rolls. (See CHECK BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler
section.)
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Belts not correct length.
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Belt lengths need to
be within 38 mm (1-1/2 in.) of each other. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler
section.)
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Bad fabric or construction of belt.
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Repair or replace belt.
(See procedures in Service—Baler section.)
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New belts cross and flip on rolls while raising and lowering
gate
| Wax from belts builds up or rolls. High belt friction
from sticky silicone on belts. High roller friction form paint on
rolls. |
Use oil dry granules
or talcum powder to polish rolls. (See BELT TRACKING ISSUES in Prepare
Baler section.)
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Improper belt tracking at belt guides.
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Install Auxilary Take-up
Roll to reduce belt slack during bale discharge. See ATTACHMENTS section
and your John Deere dealer.
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Sticky or contaminated check valves in tension valve
causes tension are to lower slowly during gate closing.
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Repair or replace as
necessary. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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Tension arm rubbing sidesheet.
| Tension arm not centered between sides. |
Adjust tension arm.
(See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)
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Crop builds up at tension arm or upper belt guides.
| Crop gets pinched between lower drive roller tube and
belts. Crop sticks to back of belts and travels up front of baler.
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Make sure that belts
are centered on rubber strips of drive roll. (See ADJUST BELT TRACKING
in Service—Baler section.)
Engage soft core option,
if equipped, for the first 36 inches of bale. (See ADJUST VARIABLE
CORE DIAMETER in Operating the Baler section.)
Install silage auger
kit. The auger will scrape crop from back of belts, allowing crop
to fall back onto windrow. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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Excessive wear of lower drive roll strips.
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Replace lower and upper
drive rolls. (See your John Deere dealer.)
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