General Baler Difficulties

Monitor Gate Closed indicator does not come on and Gate Open indicator stays on.

Obstruction between gate and frame.

Remove obstruction.

 

Hay buildup on belts in gate area in some crop conditions.

Remove buildup. Operate PTO while closing gate.

 

Too much clearance between latch hooks and shim pad.

Adjust gate latch stop. (See Adjust Gate Latch Stop in Service—Baler section.)

 

Hay buildup at gate latch area due to incorrect routing of hydraulic pickup lift hoses.

Route hoses correctly.

Monitor Gate Closed And Stop indicators are on.

Gate latch switch not adjusted properly.

Adjust gate latch switch. (See Gate Latch Proximity Switches in Service—Baler section.)

 

Tractor hydraulic valve leaking oil into baler.

Repair tractor hydraulic valve. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Air in hydraulic system.

Open and close gate several times to remove air.

 

Internal leak in gate hydraulic cylinder.

Repair or replace the cylinder. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Hydraulic cylinder not retracted when gate is closed.

Hold tractor selective control valve lever 2—3 seconds after green light is on.

 

Gate not latched.

When closing gate, hold tractor selective control valve until green light comes on.

 

Gate latches not adjusted properly.

Adjust gate latch stop. (See Gate Latch Proximity Switches in Service—Baler section.)

 

Gate sprung.

Straighten. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Gate not latched.

Obstruction between gate and frame.

Remove obstruction.

 

Hay buildup on belts in gate area in some crop conditions.

Remove buildup. Operate PTO while closing gate.

 

Too much clearance between latch hooks and shim pad.

Adjust gate latch stop. (See Gate Latch Proximity Switches in Service—Baler section.)

 

Hay buildup at gate latch area due to incorrect routing of hydraulic pickup lift hoses.

Route hoses correctly.

Bale density gauge reading in red.

Tractor selective control valve not in neutral position while baling.

Move hydraulic lever to neutral while baling.

 

Defective density gauge.

Replace gauge. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Defective bale density valve cartridge.

Replace or repair valve. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Diamond surfaces on bale forming belts are rubbing together.

Upper belt tension roll in shipping position.

Move to operating position. (See Adjust Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

 

Crop or mud buildup on rolls.

Clean rolls.

 

Belt tension arm not fully down.

Lower tension arm with tractor hydraulic lever.

 

Belts not routed properly.

See belt routing diagram and reroute. (See Install Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts too short.

Repair belts. (See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.)

Starter roll wraps with hay.

Regular Pickup: Pickup drive idler not adjusted properly or pickup belt damaged.

Adjust the idler or replace the belt, if necessary.

 

MegaWide™ Plus Pickup: Slip clutch worn.

Replace pickup slip clutch. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Check pickup clutch torque. (See Check Pickup Slip Clutch Torque [MegaWide™ Plus] in Service—Baler section.)

 

MegaWide™ Plus Pickup: Main drive slip clutch slipping.

Adjust the main PTO driveline slip clutch.

Adjust the starter roll scraper. (See Adjust Starter Roll Scraper [if equipped] in Service—Baler section.)

 

Windrow wet on bottom.

Turn windrow. (See Bale Wet Hay in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Ground speed and rpm too high when starting bale.

Reduce rpm until the bale core has formed.

 

Windrow too large.

Decrease windrow size.

Install starter roll scraper. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Material pinched under pickup crop divider, tire, or gauge wheels.

Start bale with windrow centered on pickup. Gathering wheels can help for scattered windrows.

 

Nicks or rough places on starter roll.

Smooth with a file.

Bale density control knob hard to turn.

Raised gate or belt tension arm causes additional turning resistance.

Adjust with gate closed and belt tension arm down. (See Adjust Bale Density in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Dry thread on adjusting screw.

Apply a few drops of oil or a dry graphite lubricant to the threads.

 

Locking ring locked against valve body.

Unscrew locking ring before adjusting density control knob.

Belt lacing failure.

Belts are not the same length.

Repair belts. (See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not tracking correctly.

Adjust belt tracking. (See Adjust Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

 

Making oversized bales.

Check maximum bale size adjustment. (See Adjust Oversize Bale Switch in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not routed correctly.

Route belts correctly. (See Install Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Material wrapping on rolls.

Remove material from rolls.

Belt splice pins break.

Excessive wear on pins.

Check pins for wear or breakage every 2000 bales (every 1000 bales in sandy conditions). Replace pins if broken, or if more than one-third of pin thickness is worn through.

 

Incorrect belt length can cause excessive load on shorter belts.

See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.

Belt slipping or not turning.

Belt tension arm not returning all the way down to tension belts.

Operate tractor at full rpm when closing gate to ensure that tension arm tightens belts before gate close indicator comes on.

 

Water dripping off belts and rollers.

Avoid baling in rain or frosted crop.

Reduce density. (See Adjust Bale Density in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Belts too long.

Check belts for proper length. (See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Excessive wrappage of net material around top idler roll (No. 11) pinches belt against the top baler frame tube.

Remove wrappage around starter roll.

 

Upper tension arm compression spring out of adjustment.

Adjust spring. (See Adjust Take-Up Arm Compression Spring in Service—Baler section.)

Gate lock valve closes or locks before gate is closed.

Gate lock valve spool is not in full unlocked position (snap ring must be against housing).

Make sure that valve spool is not binding. If handle contacts bracket before spool is fully out, bend bracket slightly to allow full travel of the valve spool in both directions.

 

Binding at gate pivots.

Eliminate binding.

Gate twisted.

Gate becomes unlatched on one side when baling begins, or gate becomes unlatched while baling.

Hold lever 2—3 seconds after Gate Closed indicator is on before beginning to bale. (Do not rely upon sound of gate closing.) See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider to straighten gate.

 

Gate latches not adjusted properly.

Adjust gate latches. (See Adjust Gate Latch Stop in Service—Baler section.)

 

Gate latch proximity switches not adjusted properly.

Check the gate latch switch adjustment. (See Adjust Gate Latch Proximity Switches in Service—Baler section.)

 

Tractor selector valve leaking.

Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Broken or stretched latch hook.

Replace parts.

Bale sticks in chamber.

Paint on side sheets of the new baler.

Reduce density until the baler has made several bales to polish side sheet. (See Adjust Bale Density in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Bale density too high.

Lower bale density at the control valve. (See Adjust Bale Density in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Bale sticks in the front frame due to damp crop.

Install High-Moisture Kit. (See Attachments section.)

 

Excessive side sheet friction caused by buildup on side sheets.

Remove buildup. Make sure gate deflectors (if equipped) are installed in gate.

 

Excessive side sheet friction.

Check straightness and straighten front side sheets of the baler if needed. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Damage to belt diamond pattern. Belts cut or broken.

Material buildup on compressor rack causing belts to contact starter roll.

See Bale Short, Dry, Slick Crops, and Bale Cornstalks in Operating the Baler section.

 

Foreign objects in windrow.

Operate with the pickup as high as possible. (See Adjust Pickup Height in Operating the Baler section.)

Remove foreign objects from windrow.

 

Wrappage on lower drive roll forcing belt into starter roll.

Remove wrappage.

 

Bale forming belts contacting each other.

See Diamond Surface On Bale Forming Belts Are Rubbing Together in this section.

 

Third roll drive not disengaging as the gate opens.

Check for the orifice inside of the block behind the supply line port on the main valve block.

 

Third roll drive not staying disengaged.

Check valve or manual valve in the third roll drive valve block. Ensure that the valve is not allowing oil to leak and not hold pressure in the cylinder. Replace the check valve or manual valve.

 

Third roll drive not disengaging as gate opens. Slow gate time or low flow going to the valve block.

To target a 5 second gate open time, adjust the hydraulic flow.

Belt edges fuzzy.

Normal break-in.

After break-in period, the fuzziness will stop.

Trim loose cords.

Excessive wear on belt guides or tension arm.

Improper belt tracking or tension arm rear tips not centered.

Adjust belt tracking. (See Adjust Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

Check for grooves worn into the tension arm wear channels. (See Tension Arm Wear Channels in Lubrication and Maintenance section.)

Center tension arm rear tips and replace the tension arm wear channels. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Belts pinched between lower gate roll and axle tube.

Gate is closing before tension arm removes slack from belts.

Operate tractor at full rpm when closing gate to ensure that tension arm tightens belts.

If equipped with the net wrap, the flow restrictor valve supplied with the bundle must be installed.

Make sure that tractor SCV is not placed into float position when closing the gate.

 

Tractor selective control valve lever in detent while closing gate.

Adjust selective control valve lever for no detent, so lever returns to neutral when released. (See your tractor operator's manual.)

 

Sticking or contaminated check valves in tensioning valve.

Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Belts turn over or cross.

Closing gate with PTO engaged and strong winds prevailing and side hill operation.

Disengage PTO before opening gate.

 

Operating baler empty with gate up and no tension on belts for extended periods.

Install Auxiliary Take-up Roll to reduce the belt slack during bale discharge. See Attachments sections and your John Deere dealer.

 

Driving too long on one side of windrow at bale start. Hay pushes out between belts.

Center pickup on the windrow at the bale start.

 

Third roll drive not disengaging as the gate opens.

Check for orifice inside the block behind the supply line port on the main valve block.

Belts do not track properly.

Belt tracking rollers out of adjustment.

Adjust rollers. (See Adjust Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not correct length.

Correct belt length. (See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not cut square when splicing.

Resplice belt. (See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Twine or mud buildup on baler rolls.

Remove buildup.

 

Belts not routed correctly.

See belt routing diagram and reroute belts. (See Install Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Bad bearing on roll.

Rotate all rolls by hand and inspect for loose bearings, and so on. Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

New belts track back and forth on rolls.

Wax from belts builds up on rolls.

Use oil dry granules to polish rolls. (See Check Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not correct length.

Belt lengths need to be within 38 mm (1.5 in) of each other. (See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.)

 

Bad fabric or construction of belt.

Repair or replace belt. (See Repair Belts in Service—Baler section.)

New belts cross and flip on rolls while raising and lowering gate

Wax from belts builds up or rolls. High belt friction from sticky silicone on belts. High roller friction form paint on rolls.

Use oil dry granules to polish rolls. (See Check Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

 

Improper belt tracking at belt guides.

Check and adjust three belt tracking rolls as needed. (See Adjust Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

 

Sticky or contaminated check valves in tension valve causes tension are to lower slowly during gate closing.

Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Tension arm rubbing side sheet.

Tension arm not centered between sides.

Adjust tension arm. (See Adjust Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

Crop builds up at tension arm or upper belt guides.

Crop gets pinched between lower drive roller tube and belts. Crop sticks to back of belts and travels up front of baler.

Make sure that belts are centered on rubber strips of the drive roll. (See Adjust Belt Tracking in Service—Baler section.)

Engage soft core option, if equipped, for the first 36 inches of bale.

Install silage auger kit. The auger scrapes crop from back of belts, allowing crop to fall back onto windrow. (See your John Deere dealer.)

 

Excessive wear of lower drive roll strips.

Replace lower and upper drive rolls. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)


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