General Baler Difficulties

Monitor-controller GATE CLOSED indicator does not come on and GATE OPEN indicator stays on.

Obstruction between the gate and frame.

Remove obstruction.

 

Hay buildup on the belts in the gate area in some crop conditions.

Remove buildup. Operate PTO while closing gate.

 

Too much clearance between the latch hooks and shim pad.

Adjust the gate latch stop. (See procedure in Service—Baler section.)

 

Hay buildup at the gate latch area due to incorrect routing of the hydraulic pickup lift hoses.

Route hoses correctly.

Monitor-controller GATE CLOSED and STOP indicators are on.

Gate latch switch not adjusted properly.

Adjust the gate latch switch. (See procedure in Service—Baler section.)

 

Tractor hydraulic valve leaking oil into baler.

Repair the tractor hydraulic valve. (See your John Deere dealer.)

 

Air in the hydraulic system.

Open and close the gate several times to remove air.

 

Internal leak in the gate hydraulic cylinder.

Repair or replace the cylinder. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Hydraulic cylinder not retracted when the gate is closed.

Hold the tractor selector control valve lever 2—3 seconds after green light is on.

 

Gate is not latched.

When closing gate, hold the tractor selector valve until the green light comes on.

 

Gate latches not adjusted properly.

Adjust the gate latch stop. (See procedure in Service—Baler section.)

 

Gate sprung.

Straighten. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Gate not latched.

Obstruction between the gate and the frame.

Remove obstruction.

 

Hay buildup on the belts in the gate area in some crop conditions.

Remove buildup. Operate PTO while closing gate.

 

Too much clearance between the latch hooks and shim pad.

Adjust the gate latch stop. (See procedure in Service—Baler section.)

 

Hay buildup at the gate latch area due to incorrect routing of the hydraulic pickup lift hoses.

Route hoses correctly.

Bale density gauge reading in red.

Tractor selector valve not in neutral position while baling.

Move the hydraulic lever to neutral while baling.

 

Defective density gauge.

Replace the gauge. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Defective bale density valve cartridge.

Replace or repair the valve. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Diamond surfaces on bale forming belts are rubbing together.

Upper belt tension roll in the shipping position.

Move to the operating position. (See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)

 

Crop or mud buildup on the rolls.

Clean the rolls.

 

Belt tension arm not fully down.

Lower the tension arm with tractor hydraulic lever.

 

Belts not routed properly.

See belt routing diagram and reroute. (See INSTALL BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts too short.

Repair belts. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

Starter roll wraps with hay.

Regular Pickup: Pickup drive idler not adjusted properly or pickup belt damaged.

Adjust the idler or replace the belt, if necessary. (See ADJUST PICKUP DRIVE BELT IDLER in Service—Baler section.)

 

MegaWide™ Plus Pickup: Slip clutch worn.

Replace the pickup slip clutch. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Check the pickup clutch torque. (See CHECK PICKUP SLIP CLUTCH TORQUE [MegaWide™ Plus] in Service—Baler section.)

 

MegaWide™ Plus Pickup: Main drive slip clutch slipping.

Adjust the main PTO driveline slip clutch. (See ADJUST MAIN PTO DRIVELINE SLIP CLUTCH in Service—Baler section.)

Adjust the starter roll scraper. (See procedure in Service—Baler section.)

 

Windrow wet on the bottom.

Turn the windrow. (See BALE WET HAY in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Ground speed and rpm too high when starting the bale.

Reduce the rpm until the bale core has formed.

 

Windrow too large.

Decrease the windrow size.

Install the starter roll scraper. (See your John Deere dealer.)

 

Material pinched under pickup crop divider, tire, or gauge wheels (if equipped).

Start the bale with the windrow centered on the pickup. Gathering wheels can help for scattered windrows.

 

Nicks or rough places on the starter roll.

Smooth with a file.

Bale density control knob hard to turn.

Raised gate or belt tension arm causes additional turning resistance.

Adjust with gate closed and belt tension arm down. (See ADJUST BALE DENSITY in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Dry thread on adjusting screw.

Apply a few drops of oil or a dry graphite lubricant to the threads.

 

Locking ring locked against valve body.

Unscrew the locking ring before adjusting the density control knob.

Belt lacing failure.

Belts are not the same length.

Repair the belts. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not tracking correctly.

Adjust the belt tracking. (See procedure in Service—Baler section.)

 

Making oversized bales.

Check the maximum bale size adjustment. (See ADJUST OVERSIZE BALE SWITCH in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not routed correctly.

Route the belts correctly. (See INSTALL BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Material wrapping on rolls.

Remove the material from the rolls.

Belt splice pins break.

Excessive wear on pins.

Check the pins for wear or breakage every 2000 bales (every 1000 bales in sandy conditions). Replace the pins if broken, or if more than one-third of pin thickness is worn through.

 

Incorrect belt length can cause excessive load on the shorter belts.

See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.

Belt slipping or not turning.

Belt tension arm not returning all the way down to the tension belts.

Operate the tractor at full rpm when closing the gate to ensure that the tension arm tightens belts before gate close indicator comes on.

 

Water dripping off belts and rollers.

Avoid baling in rain or frosted crop.

Reduce density. (See ADJUST BALE DENSITY in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Belts too long.

Check belts for proper length. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Excessive wrappage of net material around the top idler roll (No. 11) pinches the belt against the top baler frame tube.

Remove net and crop around the top idler roll (No. 11).

 

Upper tension arm compression spring out of adjustment.

Adjust the spring. (See ADJUST TAKE-UP ARM COMPRESSION SPRINGS in Service—Baler section.)

Gate lock valve closes or locks before the gate is closed.

Gate lock valve spool is not in full unlocked position (snap ring must be against housing).

Make sure that the valve spool is not binding. If the handle contacts the bracket before the spool is fully out, bend bracket slightly to allow full travel of the valve spool in both directions.

 

Binding at the gate pivots.

Eliminate the binding.

Gate twisted.

Gate becomes unlatched on one side when baling begins, or gate becomes unlatched while baling.

Hold lever 2—3 seconds after GATE CLOSED indicator is on before beginning to bale. (Do not rely upon sound of gate closing.) To straighten the gate, see your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.

 

Gate latches not adjusted properly.

Adjust the gate latches. (See ADJUST GATE LATCH STOP in Service—Baler section.)

 

Gate latch proximity switches not adjusted properly.

Check the gate latch switch adjustment. (See ADJUST GATE LATCH PROXIMITY SWITCHES in Service—Baler section.)

 

Tractor selector valve leaking.

Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Broken or stretched latch hook.

Replace parts.

Bale sticks in the chamber.

Paint on the side sheets of the new baler.

Reduce density until the baler has made several bales to polish the side sheet. (See ADJUST BALE DENSITY in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Bale density too high.

Lower the bale density at the control valve. (See ADJUST BALE DENSITY in Operating the Baler section.)

 

Bale sticks in the front frame due to damp crop.

Install the High-Moisture Kit. (See Attachments section.)

 

Excessive side sheet friction caused by buildup on the side sheets.

Remove buildup. Make sure the gate deflectors (if equipped) are installed in the gate.

 

Excessive side sheet friction.

Check the straightness and straighten the front side sheets of the baler if needed. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Damage to the belt diamond pattern. Belts cut or broken.

Material buildup on the compressor rack causing the belts to contact the starter roll.

See BALE SHORT, DRY, SLICK CROPS, and BALE CORNSTALKS in Operating the Baler section.

 

Foreign objects in the windrow.

Operate with the pickup as high as possible. (See ADJUST PICKUP HEIGHT in Operating the Baler section.)

Remove foreign objects from the windrow.

 

Wrappage on the lower drive roll forcing the belt into the starter roll.

Remove the wrappage.

 

Bale forming belts contacting each other.

See DIAMOND SURFACE ON BALE FORMING BELTS ARE RUBBING TOGETHER in this section.

Belt edges fuzzy.

Normal break-in.

After break-in period, the fuzziness will stop.

Trim loose cords.

Excessive wear on belt guides or tension arm.

Improper belt tracking or tension arm rear tips not centered.

Adjust the belt tracking. (See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)

Check for grooves worn into the tension arm wear channels. (See TENSION ARM WEAR CHANNELS in Lubrication and Maintenance section.)

Center tension arm rear tips and replace tension arm wear channels. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Belts pinched between the lower gate roll and the axle tube.

Gate is closing before the tension arm removes slack from the belts.

Operate the tractor at full rpm when closing the gate to ensure that the tension arm tightens belts.

If equipped with the net wrap system, the flow restrictor valve supplied with the bundle must be installed.

Make sure that the tractor SCV is not placed into the float position when closing the gate.

 

Tractor selector control valve lever in detent while closing gate.

Adjust the selector control valve lever for no detent, so lever returns to neutral when released. (See your tractor operator's manual.)

 

Sticking or contaminated check valves in the tensioning valve.

Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Belts turn over or cross.

Closing gate with PTO engaged and strong winds prevailing and side hill operation.

Install Auxiliary Take-up Roll to reduce the belt slack during bale discharge. See ATTACHMENTS section and your John Deere dealer.

 

Operating baler empty with gate up and no tension on belts for extended periods.

Do not operate in this manner for an extended time.

 

Driving too long on one side of the windrow at the bale start. Hay pushes out between the belts.

Center the pickup on the windrow at the bale start.

Belts do not track properly.

Belt tracking rollers out of adjustment.

Adjust the rollers. (See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not correct length.

Correct the belt length. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not cut square when splicing.

Resplice the belt. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Twine or mud buildup on baler rolls.

Remove the buildup.

 

Belts not routed correctly.

See belt routing diagram and reroute belts. (See INSTALL BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Bad bearing on roll.

Rotate all rolls by hand and inspect for loose bearings. Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

New belts track back and forth on the rolls.

Wax from belts builds up on the rolls.

Use oil dry granules to polish rolls. (See CHECK BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)

 

Belts not correct length.

Belt lengths need to be within 38 mm (1.5 in) of each other. (See REPAIR BELTS in Service—Baler section.)

 

Bad fabric or construction of belt.

Repair or replace the belt. (See procedures in Service—Baler section.)

New belts cross and flip on rolls while raising and lowering gate

Wax from belts builds up or rolls. High belt friction from sticky silicone on belts. High roller friction from paint on rolls.

Use oil dry granules to polish rolls. (See BELT TRACKING ISSUES in Preparing the Baler section.)

 

Improper belt tracking at belt guides.

Install Auxiliary Take-up Roll to reduce the belt slack during bale discharge. See ATTACHMENTS section and your John Deere dealer.

 

Sticky or contaminated check valves in tension valve causes tension arm to lower slowly during gate closing.

Repair or replace as necessary. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

Tension arm rubbing the side sheet.

Tension arm not centered between the sides.

Adjust the tension arm. (See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)

Crop builds up at the tension arm or upper belt guides.

Crop gets pinched between the lower drive roller tube and belts. Crop sticks to the back of the belts and travels up the front of the baler.

Make sure that belts are centered on the rubber strips of the drive roll. (See ADJUST BELT TRACKING in Service—Baler section.)

Engage the soft core option, if equipped, for the first 914 mm (36 in) of the bale. (See ADJUST VARIABLE CORE DIAMETER in Operating the Baler section.)

Install the silage auger kit. The auger scrapes crop from the back of belts, allowing crop to fall back onto windrow. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)

 

Excessive wear of the lower drive roll strips.

Replace the lower and upper drive rolls. (See your John Deere dealer or qualified service provider.)


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